*Sound of Crickets*

[capri0mni]

lizziebelle commented that it was quiet in LJ land, today...

So, it's not just my f'list, then.

I know a bunch of you are recovering from Gally, and another bunch are away at Redemption.... But still, I'm kind of surprised I haven't seen any postings about last Monday's episode of Heroes.

What didja all think? I'm not sure what to make of it, myself...

Oh, and I also redid my TV!Icon, to honor Being There, one of my favorite movies.

Comments

[lizziebelle.livejournal.com]

I can't believe they killed Simone! Isaac killed her!

[capriuni.livejournal.com]

First of all: I love that icon.

Second: What I'm not sure of is whether that was just supposed to be a morality lesson about not allowing yourself to be ruled by your personal passions, when the fate of the world is in your hands, or whether that's a clue that there is someone or something manipulating these people's fates, especially since Simone was about to go public. But I'm not exactly sure how that would work.

If it turns out to be a quasi-religious answer, bordering on "The hand of God (or Satan)," I shall be mightily annoyed.

[lizziebelle.livejournal.com]

Oh, I don't know if it's all that. I think it's just to show how different people react to their powers, i.e. Isaac becoming unhinged about Peter.

Feel free to take the icon; I don't even remember where I got it. :)

[trinalin.livejournal.com]

I don't watch Heroes.

[capriuni.livejournal.com]

I had every intention of not watching it at all, at the start of the season. But my best intentions fell by the wayside. It's just so shiny to look at.

[scarfman]

There's speculation I've read that Peter will be able to project the healing power he got from Claire onto Simone.

[capriuni.livejournal.com]

That does seem to be the one power he mastered first.

But I wonder if that's just hopeful thinking on the part of fans, that no recurring good guy we like is allowed to die.

And tomorrow night, of course is the End-of-February-Sweeps mini cliffhanger before another set of reruns. This will, of course, leave us with more questions than answers...


And it will be coming back for season 2, right?

[lizziebelle.livejournal.com]

Actually, I've heard that *another* character is scheduled to die, one that you wouldn't think they could kill off (no, I don't know who it is). And yes, I believe it's been renewed for next year.

[alto2.livejournal.com]

I don't watch a whole lot of TV anymore, in favor of DVDs and reading/writing, but I had to pay attention when Chris Eccleston started on Heroes. So I've been watching for about a month and am a lot less confused now than I was then, but still trying to piece things together. As a result, I don't have a whole lot to say except that I love CE, I think Hiro is the most adorable thing I've ever seen and I was sad when he send Ando away, and that Mohinder is one of the most clueless characters I've ever seen (you know it's not good when you're shouting at the TV, "Mohinder! BE SCARED! Like, NOW!"). He's very pretty, though, so I forgive him. For now. (My Heroes friend and I have been saying that if David Tennant was Indian, he'd look like Mohinder. Because...we're just twisted like that).

And I'm with you--if this whole thing becomes a religious morality play, I'm gonna be quite peeved. Kinda like I was at "The Satan Pit," but I digress...

[capriuni.livejournal.com]

Mohinder is very pretty to look at, and his voice is very pretty to listen to. It would be so much better, I think, if his role was confined to that of narrator (perhaps, if he were speaking as the role of historian, several generations later), rather than actually trying to do stuff...

...And, um. What were you expecting, with a story called "The Satan Pit"?

[alto2.livejournal.com]

Yes, he does have a lovely voice, too. Pity the character seems to fit the "Common sense is inversely proportional to intelligence" principle.

Re: "The Satan Pit," well..."Satan" can be used metaphorically--I mean, there's a section of the Gettysburg battlefield called "Devil's Den" but I don't think anyone means to imply that he actually lives there. I was hoping we'd go for the big metaphorical approach rather than being blindingly literal. I'm not at all fond of this "The Doctor is God" idea, and to see it rendered in such painstaking "Yes, we really are saying that he is" detail was painful. Also painful was the blatant theft from "Inferno" and from Season 7 Buffy. And Babylon 5 ('cause I still say the Ood are the long-lost cousins of the Pak'ma'ra).

Anyway, making the Doctor a god weakens the character just as much as making him half-human does (though, can he be both? A god and half-human? Hmmmmm...), and just leaves me approaching Series 3 with fear and trepidation.

[capriuni.livejournal.com]

Anyway, making the Doctor a god weakens the character just as much as making him half-human does (though, can he be both? A god and half-human? Hmmmmm...), and just leaves me approaching Series 3 with fear and trepidation.

Yeah. I've pretty much given up on the New Who. I wanted to adore it, mind you. I think I gave up after the sixtth episode of Eccleston's era. I'd be swept along by the plot an the shininess while I was watching it. But five minutes after the closing credits, I always ended up feeling a bit empty.

At least, I could get an hour of fullness, out of a Chinese meal.

I might go back to it, after Rusty's gone...

(though, can he be both? A god and half-human? Hmmmmm...)

Well, there was that crucifixion shot in the TVM...

[alto2.livejournal.com]

I've pretty much given up on the New Who.

I haven't given up yet, but it wouldn't take much. I loved Nine, though--it's Ten I've found highly disappointing, and yet I think David Tennant is a fabulous actor. I really think it's the writing, because I've seen him do other things that didn't have this problem, and I think he's adorable! I blame Rusty, 'cause I think he's the fanboy that never ever should have been allowed to run his fanboy favorite show. I have never been so eager to see a character leave a show as I was when Rose left. And I loved her the first year! Rusty ruined her for me during the second year, though, and took Ten right along with her.

Well, there was that crucifixion shot in the TVM...

Hee! True. (And there's a similar one with the werewolf in "Tooth and Claw," though that doesn't directly involve the Doc.) Though, I kinda look at the TVM and, when I'm not focused on all the pretty, decide that things like the half-human nonsense and the Eye of Harmony and the other myriad plot holes (when I show it to people for the first time, I usually preface it with "If you don't understand something, feel free to ask, but be aware that some things I can't answer because they just make no sense") are figments of my imagination. And then I go back to the pretty boy with the amazing shoulders who's wrapped up in a sheet (though it's that waistcoat that really gets my attention!) ;)

[capriuni.livejournal.com]

Okay, now we're I'm really ranging far afield of our topic, but:

And then I go back to the pretty boy with the amazing shoulders

One of the most beautiful things in nature, I think, is that special curve between the neck and shoulder of a human man (well, some men). Why I haven't seen more poetic lines composed about its beauty is a mystery to me.

:::Ahem::: yes. well...

Anyway, years ago, another RADW'er, who went by the nickname Nyctolops, and I came up with an hypothesis as to how the Doctor could have been "half-human" in his Eigth!incarnation only, that centered around the fact that he regenerated in a human morgue, far from the TARDIS...

We couldn't deal with the Eye of Harmony nonsens, however...

[alto2.livejournal.com]

Hee! I'm okay with off-topic if you are :)

The best explanation I've ever heard of how Eight alone can be half-human is in this fic. Similar to your theory, but not quite the same. And now you've got me wondering how many times he's regenerated IN the TARDIS--I'd say most if not all, aside from Eight. Huh!

[capriuni.livejournal.com]

Well, there was Two-Three. But that was a special circumstance, and controlled by the Timelords, and presumably, they were watching the process to make sure nothing life-threatening or weird happened.

Then, there was Four-Five. But that regeneration was very unstable, and the TARDIS was nearby. The Doctor still needed to be in the Zero Room to pull through, though.

We don't know about Eight-Nine, though I suspect he did retreat to the TARDIS at a particularly nasty moment in the Time War.

Our explanation went like this: The TARDIS holds the Doctor's biological data within her, and when his cells are in flux, in the process of regeneration, they get a sort of feedback loop to make sure all the bits go back into the right spots.

But when Seven regenerated into Eight, the only references for feedback were human, so some of the genes in the nucleus (the ones that were most distressed) modeled themselves after human dna. Also, we worked with the idea that the first part of each cell to regenerate (and the ones most reliant on the feedback data would be the "Powerhouses" of the cells, which, in humans, are the mitochondria. And all of our mitochondria are inherited through our mothers.

So, hey-presto! When Eighth's body was settled into place, it was, biologically at least, "half human on his mother's side." While not literally true, in an historical sense, that could have been Eighth speaking out of his deep-body knowledge -- an instinctual response to the way his body was now feeling -- rather than a cognitive memory.

Note: I hate the idea of looms, too, almost as much as the idea of half-humanness. Several years before I crossed paths with fandom, I came up with a private theory as to why Timelords regenerate, which I finally wrote up here (http://capriuni.livejournal.com/134544.html). One of these days, I'm still hoping to somehow write that theory cogently into a fic.

[alto2.livejournal.com]

Right, I wasn't including Two-Three. I forgot that Five doesn't actually make his debut inside the TARDIS, though--I was picturing all the images once he actually gets there, and the rest of it slipped my mind. He does certainly seem to need to be where the TARDIS is, though--though Castrovalva seemed to do a decent job as a substitute Zero Room, even though it was fake. I suppose we can chalk that one up to the Master being devious, though ;)

That theory is really interesting! And of course, since nobody knows exactly HOW a Time Lord regenerates (and I'd be scared of anyone who told me that they did!), there's plenty of leeway for theorizing. I will have to go check out your other theory, too :)

[alto2.livejournal.com]

I forgot to mention that I love the icon!

[capriuni.livejournal.com]

Thanks! It sprang from discussions on RADW, where we explored the idea of the TARDIS as metaphor for the mind and imagination...

Which is also the reason that I think the best thing about the New Who is the redone TARDIS design -- so organic, and skull-like.

[alto2.livejournal.com]

I was in London two years ago--I literally flew back three days before the new series premiered. It was killing me and the friend I was with that we were going to miss it by so little, especially because we kept seeing the trailers on the BBC. Our reaction to the new TARDIS, though, was "Wait, that's the Master's TARDIS, right? It's all green, and...weird." I've adjusted, but I can't deny I still love the classic series console room, though the TVM console room has grown on me a lot--all the wood, the books lining the walls... I could totally live in there. :)