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This is following on my comments, last night this morning, about the rampant-bodyism between the Daleks and the Thals.

Susan: [of the Daleks] But I don't understand. They said you were "mutations."

Thaladon: There were many mutations, after the [Thaldon?] War; most of them perished. But this form: two eyes, two hands, has always been best for survival.

(voice inside my head: Interesting! So maybe they did not start out as humanoid?)

Susan: But they said you were monsters!

Thaladon: If they call us "monsters," what must they be like?!

Me: [out loud] Different! They must be different!

('Cause, really. That is all that you can conclude from that classification. You can tell a lot more about the Daleks by the fact that the first thing they did was take them prisoner, while the Thals brought medicine.)

I'd love to see a sci-fi feature (or even a Doctor Who episode) where the good guys crawl along the ground, with long purply tentacles, and the villians are the tall, bilaterally symmetrical, bipedal, sparkly ones.

And by "Good Guys," I mean the protectors of civilization, art, philosophy, history, and virtue. Please do not be making the purple crawlers the poor, oppressed slave people who need rescuing by our tall, bilaterally symmetrical, bipedal heroes.

In fact, it would make for some very tense plotting if our bipedal protagonists confuse which side is good, and which is evil, because of prejudice. And then, after they discover their error (to their sorrow), have to convince the purple crawlies that they're good guys too, in spite of their appearance.

...Just to, you know... stir things up a little bit.

'Cause really? Before they start speaking, and ranting about universal domination, what I see when I look at daleks are creatures who have become physically disabled, but used their intelligence to create and build sophisticated tools to help them live full lives and a complete civilization. Oh, and this: they get from place to place using electricity.

Edited to Add (cause I just thought of it): Neil deGrasse Tyson, American Astrophysicist Television Personality, has said several times, that he wished aliens didn't always look so human in science fiction movies, because, probably, humans are the only creatures that look like humans. And most living things, even here on Earth, don't even have faces (hello, trees and jelly fish).

But movie makers' first goal, maybe the only goal, has nothing to do with teaching the audience about the possible variety of life in the galaxy, but to get an immediate emotional response from the very first image on the screen. And the fact is that human audiences are hardwired to respond to humanlike faces. Period.

So, I was thinking, for my Purple Crawlies: they could have skin like cuttlefishes, and when they realize that humans respond to human faces, they create moving facelike patterns on their skin whenever they're talking to humans, and other patterns when speaking with each other. I think that would work.

Date: 2009-01-11 08:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snowgrouse.livejournal.com
It's pretty interesting to think about this, considering the Daleks were based on Nazis (who looked down upon anything not tall, blond and "healthy"). So, yeah, it's a bit contradictory. I'm getting a feeling that it gets less and less acceptable to portray baddies as physically disabled, the more the focus shifts towards the mentally disabled/different being evil, just because they're insane. And that sucks, too. Some people can be psychopathic just because their brain is wired in a certain way, yes, but it can be incredibly condescending to write off a villain's evilness as just a symptom of mental illness. Villains are way more interesting when they're shown as characters who have made conscious (im)moral choices, IMHO. I could go on another rant about NuWho giving the Master those fucking stupid Drums (he's not a fucking victim, damn it, he chose to be batshit!) but then I'd be here forever...

Date: 2009-01-11 09:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] capriuni.livejournal.com
Yes. This. Plus, there are plenty of insane people who are perfectly decent, moral people, even when they have a hard time navigating through the world of others.

What it all boils down to that I object to is putting people in broad catagorical boxes, and drawing easy conclusions from that, towhit: Like Us = Good. Not Like Us = Bad. Because we could never, ever, be evil, because we're us!

It's an easy out for the audience, so no one has to do any uncomfortable self-examination, or thinking.

Date: 2009-01-12 12:25 am (UTC)
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I'd love to see a sci-fi feature (or even a Doctor Who episode) where the good guys crawl along the ground, with long purply tentacles, and the villians are the tall, bilaterally symmetrical, bipedal, sparkly ones.

Ho'but The Leisure Hive? The bug-eyed monster (from the historical enemy race of the visited planet's natives, who are humanoid and golden) whose race's name is an anagram of mafioso turns out to be the representative of Law and Order, and all the Earthman speaking parts turn out to be villains (with one of them the disguised bug-eyed monster criminal that the fed is chasing).

Date: 2009-01-12 02:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] capriuni.livejournal.com
Okay. Good to know. (Yay, Doctor Who in some things). I'd still like to see a bit more of this. 'Cause the bit of dialog I quoted is an example of the vast majority of stuff out there...

Date: 2009-01-12 03:47 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] pedanther
I'd love to see a sci-fi feature (or even a Doctor Who episode) where the good guys crawl along the ground, with long purply tentacles, and the villians are the tall, bilaterally symmetrical, bipedal, sparkly ones.

In fact, it would make for some very tense plotting if our bipedal protagonists confuse which side is good, and which is evil, because of prejudice.

This is a pretty close description of "Galaxy 4", from Doctor Who's original third season. (Unfortunately, it's one of the baleeted stories.)

Date: 2009-01-12 04:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] capriuni.livejournal.com
Damn the burnination!

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