capri0mni: A black Skull & Crossbones with the Online Disability Pride Flag as a background (Default)
[personal profile] capri0mni
News article from the BBC (26 July, 2016 ~05:00, UCT) -- TRIGGER WARNINGS abound.

From what little I’ve seen (the largest mass killing in Japan since World War II, and I’ve seen a total of three print news stories about it), this is getting spun as yet another “lone killer with mental illness” story. ...

Yeah.

I am highly skeptical of any claim that all acts of hate must be “crazy” just because they are extreme. In fact, I think that assumption is exploited by bigots, who deliberately perform the expected symptoms of mental illness leading up to their (very rational, carefully planned) attacks, so that they can literally get away with murder.

But:

Even if that were true in this case: The shape of an individual’s mental illness is strongly influenced by the dominant schema of the culture they’re living in.

Four hundred years ago, the fears people were obsessed with were witches, demons, and “fairies.”

Today, it’s germs, extraterrestrials, immigrants, women, people of color, and the disabled.

No way, no how, should anyone foist the responsibility for these horrors onto isolated loners, whose ‘crazy’ beliefs just pop, fully formed, into their minds.

It’s time to stop asking: “How can we fix those people?”
We need to ask: “What’s wrong with us? How can we change for the better?”

Date: 2016-07-26 04:57 pm (UTC)
spiralsheep: Sheep wearing an eyepatch (spiralsheep Ram Raider mpfc)
From: [personal profile] spiralsheep
Individual "carers" mass murdering disabled, incapacitated, and/or elderly people has been a thing that sometimes happens for as long as I can remember and, yes, I think it is an extension of cultural memes about involuntary "euthanasia" for people whose lives are deemed to be worth-less/worthless by mainstream opinion.

Clue: if it's involuntary then it's not "euthanasia".

Clue: there are many good reasons why most cultures have deeply embedded memes against suicide aka "voluntary euthanasia".

I'm not against all suicide, or living wills in which people preemptively decide to choose not to be resuscitated in extreme circumstances, but many of the examples I'm seeing used as arguments in favour of "voluntary euthanasia" look to me more like people who need better care and/or treatment before they make any life-changing decisions.

Date: 2016-07-26 05:30 pm (UTC)
spiralsheep: Sheep wearing an eyepatch (spiralsheep Ram Raider mpfc)
From: [personal profile] spiralsheep
And, while we're on the subject, I need to never see the term "mercy killing" again.

Date: 2016-07-26 05:45 pm (UTC)
spiralsheep: Woman blowing heart-shaped bubbles (Bubble Rainbow)
From: [personal profile] spiralsheep
Yeah, I thought you might agree with that statement.

Re: More trigger warnings

Date: 2016-07-26 09:40 pm (UTC)
spiralsheep: Sheep wearing an eyepatch (spiralsheep Ram Raider mpfc)
From: [personal profile] spiralsheep
::reads and nods understanding::

All the trigger warnings continue.

Date: 2016-07-26 05:47 pm (UTC)
redsixwing: Gul Madred from ST:TNG in front of four lights. Text: There is no war in Ba Sing Se. (ba sing se)
From: [personal profile] redsixwing
Coverage that doesn't use the "mentally ill lone wolf" story. Instead, they point the finger at his beliefs - again without inquiring where those came from, but at least the focus is on his ideas about what a perfect world would look like.*

This is intended not as an attempt to disprove your point, but as an example of a start of a better way to handle this.

*A perfect world that requires killing a bunch of people is not a perfect world.
Edited (broke the html) Date: 2016-07-26 05:49 pm (UTC)

Re: All the trigger warnings continue.

Date: 2016-07-26 10:41 pm (UTC)
redsixwing: A red knotwork emblem. (Default)
From: [personal profile] redsixwing
For sure. =/

Re: All the trigger warnings continue.

Date: 2016-07-27 02:56 pm (UTC)
davidgillon: A pair of crutches, hanging from coat hooks, reflected in a mirror (Default)
From: [personal profile] davidgillon
But the phrase "Twisted logic" still makes me cringe.

This.

Date: 2016-07-26 09:50 pm (UTC)
alatefeline: Painting of a cat asleep on a book. (Default)
From: [personal profile] alatefeline
>> The shape of an individual’s mental illness is strongly influenced by the dominant schema of the culture they’re living in. <<

>> No way, no how, should anyone foist the responsibility for these horrors onto isolated loners, whose ‘crazy’ beliefs just pop, fully formed, into their minds. <<

Well said.

>> We need to ask: “What’s wrong with us? How can we change for the better?” <<

As a collective us, yes, I agree. Which means each one person has individual responsibility for looking at oneself, and shares group responsibility for the communities in which each person lives/participates. (Bad sentence structure is bad, sorry, not sure how to clarify.)

Date: 2016-07-27 02:59 pm (UTC)
davidgillon: A pair of crutches, hanging from coat hooks, reflected in a mirror (Default)
From: [personal profile] davidgillon
Equally disturbing, how quickly it has fallen out of the headlines. For any other minority group I would have expected to still be second lead last night (less than 24 hours later), after the murder in France, instead it had dropped not just below the fold, but almost entirely off the page.
Edited Date: 2016-07-27 03:00 pm (UTC)

Date: 2016-07-27 06:47 pm (UTC)
davidgillon: A pair of crutches, hanging from coat hooks, reflected in a mirror (Default)
From: [personal profile] davidgillon
Uncomfortable points.

Date: 2016-07-28 06:40 pm (UTC)
untonuggan: Lily and Chance squished in a cat pile-up on top of a cat tree (buff tabby, black cat with red collar) (Default)
From: [personal profile] untonuggan
All of this. Yeah :/

Date: 2016-07-28 07:40 pm (UTC)
untonuggan: Lily and Chance squished in a cat pile-up on top of a cat tree (buff tabby, black cat with red collar) (Default)
From: [personal profile] untonuggan
ha i know that feelz

(took a nap midway through reading it yesterday myself)

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