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and it's an experiment. If the experiment is successful, and you want to try it again, it's done as a lark. Do it three times -- it's a tradition

I'm speaking, of course, of the Pro-Fun Troll Hoedown. Last year, it went from "lark" to "tradition," and so there is an expectation, by me at the very least, that there will be a Hoedown again in 2003... Or maybe a grand masque.

You see, in the rather unexepected-until-the-nearly-last-minute turn of events in the plot of the most recent story, a new Timelord entered the arena of Doctor Who fanfiction: Florestan -- a Timelord from the time when Old High Gallifreyan was still the common tongue. And whatever happens at the celebration this year, Florestan will definitely be in on the hosting... and Hoedowns, as such, may not be his favorite cup of tea.

And so I realized that I'd better take the time to get to know this Florestan character better, before the party guests actually start knocking on the door, asking to be let in. So my next fiction writing attempt will be to follow Eloise (She's the little troll grinning at you right now) and Florestan though a few scattered moments after the last Hoedown.

And that means getting to know Eloise better, too, and fleshing out more of her biograghy... and there's the rub. Continuity breakdown of the first order. You see, during the very first Hoedown, which was only an experiment at the time, I wrote of Eloise's origins in a fairly literal, if goofy way, as this quote from "Chaos in Cyberspace" -- Chapter 8: Know Your Enemy is direct evidence:

"My dear Doctor," the troll* interjected, "I do more than visit Cyberspace, "I was born here -- right here on Rad-wah. She gazed off into the distance, wistfully. Over yonder, in the valley between those two mountains, there’s a lovely arching bridge that provides perfect shelter from the rain. She snapped out of her reverie. All trolls, pro-fun and nasty, are born in Cyberspace, and then, sometimes, we move to dimensional space, and make our homes on the mundane planets..."

---
But since then, the hoedowns have gotten darker and more complex, and consequently, in my imagination, so has Eloise's biography, and I no longer envision her being born on "Planet Rad-wah" (aka Rec.Arts.Drwho, or RADW) at all, but in some alternate universe that is a much closer parallel to Earth -- perhaps so close to Earth that a casual visiter wouldn't be able to tell the difference, except to think that maybe they had traveled back in time about 150 years.

So here's the conundrum that was going around in my head as I woke up this morning: What do I do about this?

Do I ignore what I wrote during that first Hoedown "Experiment" completely, and just go off in an entirely different direction, writing a story in the sort of dark tones of serious fantasy fiction set on alternate "Earths" (such as in Phillip Pullman's His Dark Minstrels trilogy, or the fantasy novels of Jane Yolen and Patricia McKillip)? Or do I try to incorporate some aspects of the spoofy-goofy "planets of Cyber-space"?

On the one hand, I think the first option (ignore what I wrote in 2000 completely) better fits the character Eloise has become over the last three years. On the other hand, I have a certain fondness for the first Hoedown, mainly because it was the first, and its creation opened the door to many dear friendships (including those with [livejournal.com profile] alryssa and [livejournal.com profile] gordon_r_d), and don't want to write it off as just an experiment.

So ultimately, I'm left with this question: Which is more important -- integrity of character, or ingretity of continuity?

Comments? Suggestions? Help?


* "The Little Troll" didn't even have a name, yet, back then. The name Eloise didn't even come to me until halfway through the second Hoedown.

Never ignore the past

Date: 2003-03-18 11:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drkminded.livejournal.com
You should never ignore what you have written in the past. It is what helps you in the future to help you write. I think that the integrity of both the character & the ingretity of the continuity can be both important probably if done the right way. Go back and skim through what you have written before. Eventually you might get some ideas on how to work with both. I hope this makes sense to you.

Re: Never ignore the past

Date: 2003-03-18 03:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] capriuni.livejournal.com
You should never ignore what you have written in the past.

Ignore? Never. Carefully consider, and then let go of? Sometimes...

Date: 2003-03-18 01:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordon-r-d.livejournal.com
My immediate gut reaction would be that character continuity's more important, but that's probably due to being a fan of several things which have gleefully ignored/changed past continuity in the cause of a good story (Doctor Who being just *one* of them...) I guess I'm just so used to reboots/alternate takes/views on things that if it were something *I'd* written, I'd happily change things round to fit the character more.

Only example I can think of in my own stuff is Silence's two different origins, both of which are mostly similar but one avoids any potential copyright problems and the character herself remains the same. :)

I'd probably try both options and see which you like better. I know that isn't much help is it? Feel free to throw the nearest pillow at me.

Funnily enough I was just wondering a few days ago what/when/if/where/how the hoedown was going to appear this year...
From: [identity profile] gordon-r-d.livejournal.com
Just remembered that Yokoi's origin was *completely* different to begin with, the whole idea she was an artificial muse crated because the writer had either never had a muse or something had happened to his muse. The whole thing was ditched as I wrote stuff for the second hoedown and actually forgotten all about until I think Cameron introduced an artificial(?) muse in the third hoedown, which was an amusing co-incidence. :)
From: [identity profile] capriuni.livejournal.com
until I think Cameron introduced an artificial(?) muse in the third hoedown, which was an amusing co-incidence. :)

That was Grey's (started out as Grey Stewart, then reincarnated as Trader Grey) muse Celia, who, if I recall correctly, is actually a AI muse, which caused much tension with Calliope in Subreality (but which also proved invaluable in fighting the spammites during the Third Hoedown).

Cameron's muse was the Dreaming Muse, who moved through the landscape of the wordlet in a trance...

(hello there, Dark Angel! Welcome to a glimpse of the alternate universe(s) [livejournal.com profile] gordon_r_d and I share! ;-)).
From: [identity profile] gordon-r-d.livejournal.com
Ah, that's it...I should *really* go back and read the third hoedown as I was a bit out of it at the time and obviously the memory is a wee bit foggy. :)
From: [identity profile] capriuni.livejournal.com
Ah, that's it...I should *really* go back and read the third hoedown

Yeah, me too... I'm still confused as to how Florestan got back... I mean, I know he was trapped inside the Myth Engine, caught in a state between regenerations... But Beloved/Sweetheart expelled the myth engine right at that moment, near a black hole's singularity... So, how did the Myth Engine get back inside the TARDIS?

(just went back and reread... ah-so... thought so... I think... needed to be sure)

[evil cackling]...Well, you are just going to have to read it yourself, dear Gordon! ;-)

Date: 2003-03-18 03:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] capriuni.livejournal.com
My immediate gut reaction would be that character continuity's more important

Yeah, that's my reaction, too, and is probably what I'll go with. After all, Eloise has remained with me over the years, but most of that first Hoedown has not (except for the reformed Valeyard).

For one thing, when I wrote that continuity detail it was only intended as part of a running joke. When I went back into that first hoedown to find the quote I cited, I noticed that "the troll" wasn't even her own character yet -- "CapriUni" was still just one of her psuedonyms -- she was me, and I was her.

BTW, when I went back, I also noticed that there was a character named Ana who stumbled briefly into the scene when we were on Gallifrey... was that the selfsame Ana as [livejournal.com profile] lyssie?

Funnily enough I was just wondering a few days ago what/when/if/where/how the hoedown was going to appear this year...

Good Question!! Whose birthday should we try for this time 'round? [livejournal.com profile] alryssa got two in a row... you want the same privilege? Or should we focus on some other victim? >;-)

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