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Two Arguments For an Ugly Duckling Post:

Argument One: The protagonist "duckling" of the story is an outsider within his own family, and fails to embody their concept of "normal," because it is physically impossible for him to do so. He is therefore ostracized and bullied. This echoes the lived experience of many children with physical disabilities.

Argument Two: In (perhaps) the most famous modern retelling (The Danny Kaye musical bio-pic of Andersen), The Ugly Duckling is used, specifically, as a metaphor for illness, and how physical difference is a magnet for acts of public bullying. ... and this modern understanding of the story underscores how our society puts the responsibility for bullying on the shoulders of the victims, and makes "Cure" the most legitimate response.

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One Big Argument Against an Ugly Duckling Post:

Argument One and Only: There's Zero Evidence in text that Andersen, himself, intended the "Duckling's" experience to be a metaphor for illness or disability. ...

And because of that, I'm not sure whether the story would count as being within the purview of my blog. Sure, the original source was penned well before the onset of the Great War, but that specific retelling (YouTube clip from the film) came a solid two generations afterward. And that raises the philosophical question of whether or not the telling and the retelling are, in fact, the same story.

Now, if I could find some evidence that that movie interpretation had some basis in fact -- that that is what Andersen intended, than I'd have no compunction whatsoever about including it (and it would make March the month for our Web-footed Friends, over there).

Date: 2012-03-16 11:54 pm (UTC)
spiralsheep: Sheep wearing an eyepatch (spiralsheep Ram Raider mpfc)
From: [personal profile] spiralsheep
I don't have an argument one way or another but I will offer your the observation that physical disfigurement (and that's in the eye of the beholder) is a disability (under the social model and, depending on the source of the disfigurement, possibly also under the medical model).

Disclosure: the cancer and treatment I had for seven+ years in my 20s meant I also had a noticeable facial disfigurement of the Even Total Strangers Flinch From A Distance sort for some of that time.

Date: 2012-03-16 11:59 pm (UTC)
spiralsheep: Flowers (skywardprodigal Cog Flowers)
From: [personal profile] spiralsheep
Oh, and because I was young my face grew back without so much as a skin graft (somewhat to the doctors' surprise, heh). /possibly relevant to Ugly Duckling

Date: 2012-03-17 01:11 am (UTC)
spiralsheep: Sheep wearing an eyepatch (spiralsheep Ram Raider mpfc)
From: [personal profile] spiralsheep
Heh, yes. I tend to mistrust all worst/best case scenarios (average = average).

Although in this case, to be fair, they had tried quite hard, with high-tech surgical equipment, to ensure NOTHING would grow back (cos, y'know, cancer) and I was much younger than their average patient by a couple of decades.

Date: 2012-03-17 01:16 am (UTC)
spiralsheep: Flowers (skywardprodigal Cog Flowers)
From: [personal profile] spiralsheep
I bow to your expertise, obv. I was never an Andersen fan and am not familiar with either of the other two stories you mention.

the "Happy Ending" in U.D. is that "Someone who is ugly grows out of it" is fallacious: If the protagonist had stayed with his family group, he would still have been harassed and badgered for being an ugly drake

Yes, I remember some very pointed commentary from you about that. :-)

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