capri0mni: Text: Snark Conquers All.  The word "snark" is blocking out the word "love" (Snark)
[personal profile] capri0mni
Okay, so I'm writing up a post about cerebral palsy -- a sort of addendum to the story of how the doctors decided to snip my Achilles tendons.

These things take forever to write, because, apparently, it's impossible for me to post anything without wandering down the primrose path of Google Searches. So that's how I found this: Living With C.P from the Ontario Federation for Cerebral Palsy. For the most part, it's pretty straight forward, with minimal scare statistics.

But just when you get lulled into a sense of security that the "Service Professionals" who wrote the guide (how much you want to bet they mostly all have Able-Bodied Privilege?) actually get it, you come upon a gem paragraph like this:

(quote)
It can be frustrating for adults to deal with a health care system that appears to have little knowledge or interest regarding the changing needs of aging with a disability. A positive attitude makes a big difference, and developing relaxation techniques and coping skills can have a beneficial effect on mental and physical health.
(unquote)


My reaction to the first half: "No Sh--, Sherlock! Did you come up with that all by yourself? You must be so proud!"

My reaction to the second half: "You did not just come to that conclusion after that opening statement. ... No, wait, you did. I hate you, and your entire tribe. May all the cookies turn to ashes and hair in your mouth, and may all your underwear become infested with centipedes."

There! Now I feel better!

Date: 2012-09-12 06:20 am (UTC)
pebblerocker: A worried orange dragon, holding an umbrella, gazes at the sky. (Default)
From: [personal profile] pebblerocker
After all, it's not their job to know things about providing care for people! So don't make them feel bad by shouting at them about it! And if you do go getting all uptight about things, your mental health is your own fault!

*tears hair*

Date: 2012-09-12 09:16 am (UTC)
spiralsheep: Reality is a dangerous concept (babel Blake Reality Dangerous Concept)
From: [personal profile] spiralsheep
The *only* website written by the *only* professional association for a medical condition I was researching lists, under problems of the condition and problem behaviours of patients, "coping". I swear this is true.

Are you aware of Barbara Ehrenreich's anti-Cult-of-Positive-Thinking work? It might cheer you up! ;-)

EW: You write a lot about how positive thinking is in all aspects of life. Do you think this is the most insidious about it -- this idea of a disease being your fault?

BE: I look at it with a little bit of sociological detachment. It's a brilliant system of social control. When bad things happen to people you say, "Well, it's really your attitude that has to change."


From this more general interview @ alternet.
Edited Date: 2012-09-12 09:17 am (UTC)

Date: 2012-09-12 07:04 pm (UTC)
spiralsheep: Captain Scarlet is the god of redshirts (spiralsheep Captain Scarlet Redshirt God)
From: [personal profile] spiralsheep
The only New Definition that springs to mind doesn't cover enough but, until further inspiration arrives....

Therapy: what disabled people need after the doctors have finished with them.

And remember that as long as you have a positive attitude and aren't indulging in any of that "coping" nonsense then you'll be fine! NEXT!

Date: 2012-09-12 10:05 pm (UTC)
spiralsheep: Reality is a dangerous concept (babel Blake Reality Dangerous Concept)
From: [personal profile] spiralsheep
Hmm, seeing your definition, I'm rather taken with the idea of a whole series of definitions for different forms of therapy.

1. Therapy: what disabled people need after the doctors have finished with them.

1a. Physical therapy: a systematic approach to exercise designed to increase patients' flexibility, to make it easier to cram them into predetermined categories.

1b. Occupational therapy: a systematic approach to activities designed to keep patients occupied more cheaply than treatment.

1c. Psychological therapy: a systematic approach to indoctrination designed to inculcate the cult of positive thinking, and overcome realism.

I dunno. Something like that. /tired
Edited Date: 2012-09-12 10:05 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-09-13 11:37 am (UTC)
spiralsheep: Ladies Sewing Circle and Terrorist Society (Sewing Circle Terrorist Society)
From: [personal profile] spiralsheep
Aside: I have the best slippers EVAH. Srsly, my slippers > all other slippers. When I bought them at the end of August I nearly posted a photo of them cos they're THAT FABULOUS! :-D

Date: 2012-09-14 10:11 am (UTC)
spiralsheep: I have a plan so cunning you could stick a tail on it and call it a weasel (boz4pm Blackadder Cunning Plan)
From: [personal profile] spiralsheep
Should I add googly eyes first? ;-P

Date: 2012-09-13 02:43 am (UTC)
pebblerocker: A worried orange dragon, holding an umbrella, gazes at the sky. (Default)
From: [personal profile] pebblerocker
I've heard of Ehrenreich's book and really want to read it, to help in exorcising some personal demons, but my library doesn't have it. (I wonder if you dropped a link to it or if I came across it somewhere else.) It sounds fascinating.

I'm very interested to read that positive thinking was developed as a response to Calvinism, because in my experience the positive-thinking doctrine is enmeshed with Calvinist thinking, or perhaps the two are inversions of each other. AFAIU Calvinism says we're all deservingly doomed to hell and bad things happen in our lives because we're bad people, while positive thinking says that by effort of being a good enough person we can cause only good things to happen to us, and by extension anything bad that happens is caused by personal failure to be sufficiently positive.

It's the bad side of positive thinking that damaged me. Not only the idea that only good things can happen to good people, but being told that since I was lucky enough to have heard of the positive thinking doctrine, any problems that came about as a result of my negative thoughts were self-inflicted... and even that I secretly desired bad things to happen to me and subconsciously attracted them into my life on purpose.

(Ugh. I haven't tried to talk about this, or found anyone to talk about it with, for many years. Sorry, [personal profile] capri0mni, for spilling on your journal.)

Date: 2012-09-13 07:45 am (UTC)
pebblerocker: A worried orange dragon, holding an umbrella, gazes at the sky. (Default)
From: [personal profile] pebblerocker
What a great article! Thank you.

...that image of the kid drawing a picture with the pencil held in her mouth instead of her hand? That's just the best way for her, in her body, to do it. For her, it's normal.

That bit really made me go click in my mind.

Date: 2012-09-13 11:37 am (UTC)
spiralsheep: Woman blowing heart-shaped bubbles (Bubble Rainbow)
From: [personal profile] spiralsheep
As the saying goes: "Better out than in!" Yay for constructive venting!

I come from an abusive family so the Cult of Positive Thinking and "you create your own reality" nonsensers infuriate me. Luckily, I also infuriate them because I'm the most naturally upbeat and chipper person EVAH and yet I had cancer very young so I'm living proof that their lies are unrealistic rubbish.

Date: 2012-09-14 10:18 am (UTC)
spiralsheep: Martha laughing (Martha Laughing)
From: [personal profile] spiralsheep
My favourite related quote is from Herm Albright: "A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort." :-)

Date: 2012-09-14 07:04 am (UTC)
pebblerocker: A worried orange dragon, holding an umbrella, gazes at the sky. (Default)
From: [personal profile] pebblerocker
IME you can't disprove the theory with any amount of evidence: no matter how upbeat and positive you THINK you are, you must have caused your illness with negative thoughts SOMEHOW, because if you were REALLY positive you wouldn't have got sick, QED.

I knew this system of belief didn't work, but it's all wrapped up in itself in an Emperor's New Clothes way which permits no opening for disagreement, especially when I was a child with poor debating skills. You'd think situations like yours would rock the foundations of the ideology a bit, but pretending you don't exist/brought it on yourself is so much easier...
spiralsheep: Martha laughing (Martha Laughing)
From: [personal profile] spiralsheep
it's all wrapped up in itself in an Emperor's New Clothes way which permits no opening for disagreement

Yes, people who base their beliefs about the world on faith rather than fact are not open to fact-based logic. We can disprove their faith-based hypotheses with fact-based logic and they'll choose not to change their faith-based beliefs. I do, however, think it's important (although NOT any one individual's duty in any particular situation) it's pointed out to positivity cultists that people who prefer reality-based philosophies aren't obliged to share their faith (and I think it's important to call it "faith" rather than letting it go at "belief" cos we all have beliefs but some are more fact-based and some are more faith-based).

Nonetheless, there's enormous potential for schadenfreude in seeing "positivity" cultists become aggressively negative towards me and then point their negativity out to them, while I remain relentlessly cheerful* and smiley, and they twist in the wind desperately trying to deny their blatant negativity. Although I kindly refrain from pointing out that according to their faith their negativity towards me will probably result in them dying of some hideous disease, lol.

* Note: my relentless cheeriness is probably a result of non-standard brain-wiring and has nothing to do with my moral state, exactly as I used to be fat because I had a slow metabolism whereas since I had cancer I'm thin because I have a faster metabolism (some cancer survivors find the opposite) and has nothing to do with my moral state. :-)

(Factual aside of factualness: although stress caused by external factors such as poverty and/or illness and/or other social disadvantages has been shown to effect physical health in all groups of apes, including humans, studied for this. Positive thinking by, for example, black people doesn't make racism against black people go away or make black people less black though, obv.)
Edited Date: 2012-09-14 10:15 am (UTC)

Date: 2012-09-12 02:09 pm (UTC)
raze: A man and a rooster. (Default)
From: [personal profile] raze
*facepalm* Really, I tried writing several intelligent replies to this about privilege and ableism, but *facepalm* most accurately conveys my sentiments.

Date: 2012-09-14 05:11 am (UTC)
megaptera: Megaptera novaeangliae (Default)
From: [personal profile] megaptera
It frightens me that medical professionals believe that works. D: I mean. Maybe that's how those doctors act when someone steals their lunch from the work fridge. It can work on little problems. It doesn't work on big life-altering problems.

FWIW people with mental illnesses are fed shit like that too. If I could do that on command I wouldn't need the damn pills, now would I?

Date: 2012-09-15 04:08 am (UTC)
megaptera: Megaptera novaeangliae (Default)
From: [personal profile] megaptera
If patients believed it, it'd make them bug the doctors less, is all. ;)

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