capri0mni: half furry, half sea monster in wheelchair caption: Monster on Wheels (Monster)
[personal profile] capri0mni
Over at Rolling Around in my Head, Dave Hingsburger is asking a question that tickles that special lexicography geek place in my heart (It's another "What's a lexical gap in English that you would like to see filled?" discussion). And since I have people in my circles that identify with various forms of queer- and/or Disability Pride, I thought I'd share it here:

Begin Quote:
Several years ago George Hislop, who was a close friend, told me the difference between someone who was 'gay' and someone who was 'homosexual.' He said that a 'homosexual' was someone who had sex with others of the same gender but who did not identify with their sexuality, denied it as often and as loudly as they could and who did nothing to support the political movement regarding the rights for sexual minorities. A gay person, on the other hand, was someone who also had sex with others of the same gender but had an affiliation to the movement to the rights of others to love as they will that went beyond sex. Gay people, he said, identified with their sexuality and with their community. He saw the difference as the same as the difference between shade and sun.


[Snip]

Begin Quote:
Like the woman I spoke to in Maryland who wanted to talk to me about accessibility in Toronto. When this happened it reminded me of being in a gay bar in Milwaukee and being asked how safe it was to be gay in Toronto. In both cases, it was more than strangers asking strangers tourist advice ... both were experiences of the best of community. Where strangers aren't so strange, and where questions are understood at the deepest level of their asking. Community is community but community requires an entrance fee - identity.


So... while I'll be working on other things, today, this question will be running in the background of my thoughts... I'll probably have more to say about it later.

[ETA: Oops! forgot the link to the full post -- here: http://davehingsburger.blogspot.com/2013/04/take-notes-theres-quiz-at-end.html ]

Date: 2013-04-15 03:04 pm (UTC)
smw: A woman sits at a typewriter, pages flying, a plug in the back of her awesomely big-curly hair. (brains)
From: [personal profile] smw
This got me on a tangent that doesn’t relate to disability at all, I’m afraid. I hope you don’t mind me putting it down in your comment thread.

I have difficulty accepting definitions of sexuality labels that make a claim on being definitive due to the fact that these words have so many idiosyncratic meanings within particular spaces of the community as a whole. Claiming a label is a very important gesture in queer/LGBTQ culture, and it is something held as a basic right (within the spaces I frequent) that each person can claim whatever they want as part of their self-identity. While this is irritating from a lexical standpoint and it can be argued that these definitions do not exclude a “canonical” meaning outside the spaces in which they are idiosyncratically used, from my standpoint trying to corral labels is antithetical to the inherently outsider position of the community vis-à-vis mainstream society and its efforts to pin down individuals belonging to it.

To sum: within a particular study, discussion, or space, I’m fine with definitive meanings being used to facilitate the discussion—that is, within a conversation you might say “a homosexual is in denial, and a gay person isn’t”. I am not okay with saying that those words have those meanings always, and I am definitely not okay with an individual claiming they have the right to choose which meaning is “right”.

Date: 2013-04-16 02:54 am (UTC)
smw: A woman sits at a typewriter, pages flying, a plug in the back of her awesomely big-curly hair. (monster love)
From: [personal profile] smw
Ah, I should've made my original comment clearer—this isn't really a reply to your own question, but to the phrasing attributed to George Hislop. Where the Disability community is concerned, I am not at all as versed in the culture, much less the culture with regards to self-labeling.

I must admit, I personally find labels to be a sticky matter, and my reaction is partially based on that.

I like the term "cripple", myself. It has a good rhythm. As to "monster"—hah! Go forth and disseminate, because it'd be a good choice.

Profile

capri0mni: A black Skull & Crossbones with the Online Disability Pride Flag as a background (Default)
Ann

February 2025

S M T W T F S
      1
2345678
91011121314 15
16171819202122
232425262728 

Most Popular Tags

Page Summary

Style Credit

Expand Cut Tags

No cut tags
Page generated Jul. 15th, 2025 03:41 am
Powered by Dreamwidth Studios